# ATI Radeon 9800 PRO MAC Edition & 200Hz-refresh rate / 10-bit output **URL:** \ **Category:** Uncategorized\ **Created:** [March 10, 2004, 5:20am UTC](https://psychtoolbox.discourse.group/t/ati-radeon-9800-pro-mac-edition-200hz-refresh-rate-10-bit-output/1328 "2004-03-10T05:20:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 3\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![kimssi35](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/6de8d8/32.png) [@kimssi35](https://psychtoolbox.discourse.group/u/kimssi35)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2004, 5:20am UTC](https://psychtoolbox.discourse.group/t/ati-radeon-9800-pro-mac-edition-200hz-refresh-rate-10-bit-output/1328/1 "2004-03-10T05:20:36Z")
Dear PsychToolBox Users, I'm thinking of getting ATI Radeon 9800 PRO MAC Edition (info is available at [http://www.ati.com/products/radeon9800/radeon9800prome/specs.html)](http://www.ati.com/products/radeon9800/radeon9800prome/specs.html)) for G4 1.25 single GHz. According to the brochure, this card is supposed to support "200Hz refresh rate" with 1024x768 pixels, but I wanted to make sure whether this is really true. FYI, I confirmed that my monitor could handle 200Hz input when hooked up with Ati Radeon 9600 series on a Windows platform Another important question is whether this card supports 10-bit video output signals. I would greatly appreciate if anybody has used this card with Mac G4 and succeeded in getting "200Hz refresh rate" & "10-bit video output". Sincerely, Sang-il Kim Vision & NeuroImaging Lab Seoul National University Seoul, Korea. ---
**Author:** ![mogwaisc](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/838e76/32.png) [@mogwaisc](https://psychtoolbox.discourse.group/u/mogwaisc)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2004, 5:48pm UTC](https://psychtoolbox.discourse.group/t/ati-radeon-9800-pro-mac-edition-200hz-refresh-rate-10-bit-output/1328/2 "2004-03-15T17:48:26Z")
Sang-Il, DO NOT put a MAC video card in a PC. At best, it won't work; they use different kinds of firmware in the chipsets that go on the various video cards for each platform. At worst, you'll fry the card and it will be dead and won't work in any computer with any OS, and you'll be out the money you spent on the card. Get a card specifically for a PC if that is what you're using. Paul Thiem UC Santa Cruz > --- In [psychtoolbox@yahoogroups.com](mailto:psychtoolbox@yahoogroups.com), "kimssi35" \ wrote: > \> Dear PsychToolBox Users, > \> > \> I'm thinking of getting ATI Radeon 9800 PRO MAC Edition (info is > \> available at > \> [http://www.ati.com/products/radeon9800/radeon9800prome/specs.html)](http://www.ati.com/products/radeon9800/radeon9800prome/specs.html)) > \> for G4 1.25 single GHz. > \> > \> According to the brochure, this card is supposed to support "200Hz > \> refresh rate" with 1024x768 pixels, but I wanted to make sure whether > \> this is really true. > \> > \> FYI, I confirmed that my monitor could handle 200Hz input when hooked > \> up with Ati Radeon 9600 series on a Windows platform > \> > \> Another important question is whether this card supports 10-bit video > \> output signals. > \> > \> I would greatly appreciate if anybody has used this card with Mac G4 > \> and succeeded in getting "200Hz refresh rate" & "10-bit video output". > \> > \> Sincerely, > \> > \> Sang-il Kim > \> Vision & NeuroImaging Lab > \> Seoul National University > \> Seoul, Korea. ---
**Author:** ![projectgrizzly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d26b3c/32.png) [@projectgrizzly](https://psychtoolbox.discourse.group/u/projectgrizzly)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2004, 6:53pm UTC](https://psychtoolbox.discourse.group/t/ati-radeon-9800-pro-mac-edition-200hz-refresh-rate-10-bit-output/1328/3 "2004-03-15T18:53:31Z")
This is a bit off topic but since the issue came up: changing card from pc to mac (and vice versa, but I have a hard time thinking up a situation where you'd need to with the amount hardware options available to pc users) by "fixing" the firmware. A good article on the topic can be found here ([http://www.macobserver.com/editorial/2004/01/21.1.shtml)](http://www.macobserver.com/editorial/2004/01/21.1.shtml)) and might be useful to some one searching for an end of life ATI video card for an older mac looking to get 10-bit LUTs. Christopher Taylor Bennett/Sekuler Vision & Cognitive Neuroscience Lab McMaster University, Psychology Complex 1280 Main St. West, Hamilton, ON, Canada L8S 4K1 905-529-7070 x24489 [http://www.psychology.mcmaster.ca/vislab/](http://www.psychology.mcmaster.ca/vislab/) > On Mar 15, 2004, at 12:48 PM, mogwaisc wrote: > > \> Sang-Il, > \> > \> DO NOT put a MAC video card in a PC. At best, it won't work; they use > \> different kinds of firmware in the chipsets that go on the various > \> video cards for each platform. At worst, you'll fry the card and it > \> will be dead and won't work in any computer with any OS, and you'll be > \> out the money you spent on the card. Get a card specifically for a PC > \> if that is what you're using. > \> > \> Paul Thiem > \> UC Santa Cruz > \> > \> --- In [psychtoolbox@yahoogroups.com](mailto:psychtoolbox@yahoogroups.com), "kimssi35" \ wrote: > \> \> Dear PsychToolBox Users, > \> \> > \> \> I'm thinking of getting ATI Radeon 9800 PRO MAC Edition (info is > \> \> available at > \> \> [http://www.ati.com/products/radeon9800/radeon9800prome/specs.html)](http://www.ati.com/products/radeon9800/radeon9800prome/specs.html)) > \> \> for G4 1.25 single GHz. > \> \> > \> \> According to the brochure, this card is supposed to support "200Hz > \> \> refresh rate" with 1024x768 pixels, but I wanted to make sure > \> whether > \> \> this is really true. > \> \> > \> \> FYI, I confirmed that my monitor could handle 200Hz input when > \> hooked > \> \> up with Ati Radeon 9600 series on a Windows platform > \> \> > \> \> Another important question is whether this card supports 10-bit > \> video > \> \> output signals. > \> \> > \> \> I would greatly appreciate if anybody has used this card with Mac G4 > \> \> and succeeded in getting "200Hz refresh rate" & "10-bit video > \> output". > \> \> > \> \> Sincerely, > \> \> > \> \> Sang-il Kim > \> \> Vision & NeuroImaging Lab > \> \> Seoul National University > \> \> Seoul, Korea. > \> > \> > \> > \> [http://psychtoolbox.org](http://psychtoolbox.org) > \> POST a message to: [psychtoolbox@yahoogroups.com](mailto:psychtoolbox@yahoogroups.com) > \> UNSUBSCRIBE by sending a blank message to: > \> [psychtoolbox-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com](mailto:psychtoolbox-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com) > \> > \> > \> > \> Yahoo! Groups Links > \> > \> • To visit your group on the web, go to: > \> [http://groups.yahoo.com/group/psychtoolbox/](http://groups.yahoo.com/group/psychtoolbox/) > \> > \> • To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > \> [psychtoolbox-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com](mailto:psychtoolbox-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com) > \> > \> • Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > \> Service. > \> > \> > Christopher Taylor > > Bennett/Sekuler Vision & Cognitive Neuroscience Lab > McMaster University, Psychology Complex > 1280 Main St. West, Hamilton, ON, Canada L8S 4K1 > 905-529-7070 x24489 > [http://www.psychology.mcmaster.ca/vislab/](http://www.psychology.mcmaster.ca/vislab/) > [http://psychophysics.blogspot.com](http://psychophysics.blogspot.com) > [http://christophertaylor.blogspot.com](http://christophertaylor.blogspot.com)